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Yamaha P120 and P140 comparison

October 5, 2005 by  

Since this article was first written, both the P-120 and P-140 have been superseded by the P155. Buy the Yamaha P155 from zZounds

Be sure to read the comments section at the end of this article for some excellent additional information and opinion.

I’ve noticed a few people searching for more information on the differences between Yamaha’s P120 and P140 contemporary digital pianos.

My comparison chart of the complete range of home, contemporary and stage digital pianos may help a bit, though it’s a little unwieldy. Plus, I wasn’t able to fill in all the information for the P140 at time of writing.

So I’ve done a bit more digging as this seems to be a topic of interest.

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Update: Do look at the comments section at the end of this article for some interesting insights into several user perspectives on quality and playability issues.

The P140 and P140S are Yamaha’s newest digital pianos in what they call the Contemporary range. By this I presume they are referring more to the aesthetics and look of the instruments rather than their features.

Comparison without actually playing the keyboards is difficult because Yamaha’s website offers different information for each model.

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Nevertheless, there won’t be major differences in functionality, because the P140/P140S is simply the newest member of the ‘P’ series.

Here’s what’s the same:

  • Keyboard: both implement Yamaha’s Graded Hammer Effect mechanism – though several people have noted that the P140′s keyboard action is better and more reliable than the P120s
  • Polyphony: both can handle up to 64 notes (a moderate amount for a modern digital piano)
  • Sound system / quality: both use AWM Dynamic Stereo Sampling, which is Yamaha’s most up-to-date acoustic piano synthesis system to date.
  • Voices: Both models have 14 voices, plus some method of variation. Though I couldn’t find a list for the newer P140 model, I doubt the voices are any different. Update: The P140 has dropped the “Rhodes” sound, the sounds aren’t identical, but similar.

And here’s what’s different:

  • Casing: all four models have different wood effect and metallic casings.
  • Effects: there are minor differences in the effect capabilities of the machines.

I’ve discovered that the P140/P140S are upgraded replacements for the P120. In other words, Yamaha will phase out the P120/P120S over the next few months as the newer models are shipped.

That’s probably why I’m seeing similar prices (of around US$1200) for both models, even though the P120s are about to be phased out.

I would suspect that in the next few months, dealers will be selling off P120/P120S at a slightly reduced price. After all, you don’t sell an old and new model at exactly the same price.

So, it seems that there is very little difference. The newer model may have improved internal electronics (the operating system, and so on) but effectively the models are the same.

The best thing to do is to try out both, and see which you like the look, feel and sound of, and go for that. You may also find some good deals on end-of-stock and second-hand P120s.

If you know of any significant differences that I’ve missed, do leave a comment below.

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57 Responses to “Yamaha P120 and P140 comparison”

  1. Nimrod on October 16th, 2005 10:03 am

    Hello Andy!

    First of all, thanks for the valuable information.
    If you want to complete your chart (regarding the sounds, for example), you can take a look here: http://www.yamaha-europe.com/picture_archiv/products/10_Musical_instruments/Synthesizer/stage_pianos/p140_high_jpg.jpg.
    It seems that P140 is quite different from his older brother…

    Best regards,
    Nimrod

  2. Andy on October 16th, 2005 6:16 pm

    Hi Nimrod,

    Thanks for the hi-res picture link, looks good. I’m still not seeing anything really different except in aesthetics from the P120. Am I missing something obvious?

  3. Alberto on October 18th, 2005 5:23 pm

    Dear all, I was going to buy the new P-140 model, but finally I decided to buy the “older” P-120, despite the price slightly higher!
    Why?
    In my opinion the sound is slightly warmer respect to the P-140.
    I spent the whole weekend playing the P-140 at home, and the previous one playing the P-120.
    Today I have compared the two models at the same time, by using the same headphones, just to avoid being confused by the different amplification.
    The El. piano (Rhodes like) is definitely better in the P-120, very good 70′s Rhodes voice, respect to the more “electronic” one on the P-140. I found from similar comments on Internet, too.
    On the other hand, the P-140 bears the new sound “Piano3″ which is very good to play classical music.
    Regarding the aesthetical question, I prefer the P-120 but this is only a personal opinion. Also the P-140 is very nice to look at…
    The tact switches look a bite more “professional” on the P-120 and the wooden panel is larger.
    Note that also the connections are different. In the P-140 the MIDI, pedal, OUT are on the rear panel and the headphones 3.5” jack are on the front (all connectors are in a very good position), respect to the P-120 in which all connections are on the left side (sometimes it could be less convenient).

    Whichever you choose, enjoy your Yamaha piano!

    Regards

    Alberto
    The output connectors are 6.3” jack on the P-120, and RCA on the P-140.

  4. Andy on October 19th, 2005 11:21 pm

    Fantastic, thank you very much Alberto. It’s great to hear the view of someone who has thoroughly tested the two keyboards.

    There’s no doubt they’re both class instruments.

    You say the price was higher on the P-120? That’s surprising, but maybe it’s an anomoly during the changeover. Either way, you made the best choice for you.

    This proves it’s important to try out instruments, even those that appear near identical, and hear what works best for what you need the instrument to do.

  5. jdr on November 28th, 2005 1:18 am

    Finally found an owners manual describing all the voices and other features.
    check it out at:

    http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/emi/english/cla/p140_en_om.pdf

  6. Andy on November 29th, 2005 4:57 pm

    Thank you jdr, very useful.

  7. M on December 7th, 2005 12:06 am

    I’ve been looking at these two models, have tried the P140 today and will go to a shop to try out the P120 asap. One of the differences which doesn’t seem to have been mentioned is the big difference between the speaker amplification: 2x 6watts for the P140 compared to the much larger 2x 12.5 watts for the older P120. I would like to see how much “louder” the P120 can be without the sound becoming “too loud”. Maybe useful to have additional volume for larger rooms or noisy environments.

  8. M on December 12th, 2005 3:22 pm

    Tried both 120 and 140 last weekend. Strangely, the 120 was not that much “louder” and the 140 seemed to have a slightly brighter and sharper sound.

    Another difference I noticed in the shop was that the 120 has a very cool “human chorus/choir” voice. In the 140, this has been substituted by “Grand Piano 3″ voice so that both models end up having 14 voices.

  9. Elizabeth on January 3rd, 2006 6:24 pm

    According to specifications listed at music.yamaha.com/products, The P140 has 6W x 2 Amplifiers and the P120 has 12.5W x 2. The P140 AUX Audio Out is listed as “Yes(Fixed)” and the P120 is “L/L+ R, R (1/4″ jack),L, R (RCA jack)”. I have no idea what that means. I am concerned that the Touch Response = Yes listed for P120 is omitted for the P140.

  10. Justin on February 5th, 2006 5:24 pm

    Elizabeth, not to worry, reading the PDF yamaha manaul link above, “Fixed” means that once the p140 is connected to an external device, the master volume control on the p140 will be disregarded, unadjustable, and allowing the external device to have full volume control.

  11. Jackson on March 13th, 2006 3:21 am

    Elizibeth,
    if by “touch response” you mean its ability to play more loudly or softly based on how hard you press the keys, put your mind at ease. on page 4 or 5 of the instruction manual, it tells about the sampling. there are several samples on each key, including velocity based samples, key on and off samples, and sustain pedal samples, making for a pretty hardcore grand piano representation. the keys will respond to your touch. Worry not.

  12. Andy on March 14th, 2006 12:17 pm

    Yes, on many of the P series (and other) Yamaha digital pianos, there are four touch response settings.

    Hard, medium and soft are all velocity-sensitive. Fixed is the default setting (in fact I don’t think it can be changed) for things like jazz and pipe organ – which in real life you would expect. In other words the volume is the same no matter how hard you strike the keys. Not a very useful mode for piano work, but there all the same.

  13. Andy on March 14th, 2006 12:18 pm

    Justin, I think that’s a different thing – this is to do with the touch responsiveness of the keys, not the output volume. In fact on a P140 the RCA jacks are always fixed output.

  14. Ivan on June 6th, 2006 12:00 am

    Whats the difference between “touch response” and “touch sensitivity”?

  15. Ivan on June 6th, 2006 12:00 am

    Whats the difference between “touch response” and “touch sensitivity”?

  16. Andy on June 7th, 2006 7:23 am

    Sometimes the terms are used interchangeably, but my understanding is:

    * Touch response – a fairly general term that refers to any keyboard that can respond and alter its sound based on how hard the key is struck (usually in terms of volume but could be any parameter)

    * Touch sensitivity – often found on digital pianos, you can set the scale of this touch response. For example, some people prefer a firmer or lighter touch when they play. Think of how hard you have to strike a key to produce the loudest sound possible – oon a lighter touch sensitivity stting, you may only have to strike the key half as hard as on a heavy setting, for example.

    Hope that helps a little.

  17. Brian on June 10th, 2006 3:53 pm

    Check these sights out for samples of p140 and p120 sounds. I’m entirely sure that they are actually recordings of the keyboards themselves. I guess it depends on trusting Yamaha. Anyway…check them out. I’ve found Grand Piano Three to be pretty nice…

    http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/p140/demosong.html

    http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/p120/demosong.html

    If these aren’t clickable links, sorry. Just copy and paste I guess.

    Oh and…this is just a guess…but I wouldn’t worry too much about the power output difference on the two keyboards. I have a Yamaha stereo reciever and I remember when buying that I learned that the company was never big on big power…they go for a more natural sound which necessitates less power. The compensate in other ways, however, and their sound is highly regarded by the industry. It might be helpful to check out their stereo equipment website to learn more on this subject as the speaker/amp component of the keyboard really seems to fall with in that category. Like I said though…just a guess

  18. Jeannine on July 17th, 2006 1:00 am

    I just got a P140…I’ve had a P120 for years…the e piano rhodes-ish sound is DEFINITELY better on the P120. Also, the lack of 1/4 inch inputs on the P140 is really quite irritating, but only because I don’t feel like buying/dealing with converters. The rest of the sounds are basically the same. the 140 is a bit lighter, although they’re both still really heavy. also, over the years I’ve had MULTIPLE keys break on my 120…like probably about 10 in 4 years, so hopefully that won’t happen again! love yamaha’s…but has anybody else had the key-break experience with them?

  19. Andy on July 21st, 2006 5:07 pm

    No problems with the keys at present, but I’ve only had it about 6 months. Hopefully not.

  20. Ronan O'Callaghan on October 11th, 2006 9:18 pm

    Re the breaking keys,when i phoned Yamaha Kemble (England) they queried the serial number of my P120,then toldme mine was eligible for complete replacement of the action free of charge! Which was duly done and, a year later,…. no more breaking keys.
    By the way I totally agree about the Rhodes sound on the P120 versus P140.It;s terrible but this is a really serious issue for some of us. I used to play a real Rhiodes in the seventies and my P120 ‘Rhodes’ is better!(my Stage 73 had horrible heavy action in the lower end). Now my son wants a stage piano,loves the P120 and I just can’t recommend the P140 because he needs good electric piano as well as acoustic. We’re looking for a nearly new P120 right now.

  21. Andy on October 12th, 2006 7:57 am

    I bought the P140 almost exclusively for the acoustic piano sounds so I’m not too bothered about the organ sounds (I use a Yamaha module for most of my organ sounds when on the road).

  22. Ronan O'Callaghan on November 11th, 2006 11:17 am

    re comment 20 above from me, it’s all been resolved by the new CP 33! When my son tried it he rported that like the P140 it lacked the lovel;y Rhodes of the P120. But when I played around with it today I was able to get a virtually identical sound and feel to the P120 Rhodes (EP2) by selecting the CP 33 EP1, setting the touch to ‘hard’ and knocking off the Chorus effect which is preset for it – that gave me a beautiful naked Rhodes to play with and great relationship betsween touch response and tone. Hitting the EP1 button again gives you the variation sound, which is a pretty good Wurltixer. The CP33 is beautifully neat for a stage piano, no wastewd space at each end of the keyboard, a bit lioghter than the 120/140 due to lack of amps and speakers internally, HAS 1/4″ jack outputs AND a front panel volume control. I felt sorry for people who had bought a P140 recently when I picked up my somn’s new CP33 this morning. This is piano perfection, having used both Rhodes and CP80 on stage in the past. And it cost the same in £s as my Rhodes did in 1975!

  23. Jesse Mea on December 1st, 2006 3:16 pm

    A reply to Jeannine,

    Key breaking has been a nightmare for my P-120. It began with certain notes sticking in the down position, mainly E notes (a couple of D’s too). These notes stay down because the pivot point where they attach to the key bed is a plastic nub. As soon as the key cracks near the pivot, the key does not stay attached the way it should be. Have had these notes replaced, only to see some of them stick again…. According to the tech who did my work, his replies from Yamaha said that ‘yes, this kind of problem has been encountered before, and when it happens, key replacement is suggested. If that doesn’t work, replacement of piano is in order…’. Something along those lines. What is frustrating though, is that during a trip to France, I mentioned this to a music store owner over there. And he encountered this problem too. However, when he called Yamaha to order the replacement keys, they suggested he send back the keyboard, and they replaced it! I wish Yamaha service in North America were like that… Anyway, I must front the money to replace a problem that Yamaha is aware of. I don’t understand this logic.

  24. Jesse Mea on December 1st, 2006 3:28 pm

    Concerning the CP-33:

    Just to add, I have tried the CP-33, and find the layout great. The 1/4 inch jacks and neat front panel makes this a great stage piano. I have one gripe, and I would like people to add to this if they have discovered this also. The one thing that made me bring the CP-33 back to the store is the loudest piano sample. That is, the sample that kicks in when the keyboard is played in its highest velocity range. Compared to the other samples, this one has a loud percussive attack which sticks out like a sore thumb. In live situations, the piano is my main axe, and gets played through its whole dynamic range. Right now, I play in a trio where I cover the bass on the piano, along with whatever else I’m playing with my right hand. Whereas on the 120 and 140 you have smooth dynamic change, like on a rumbling crescendeo, the CP-33 throws this big attack sound all of a sudden. To me, this is not acceptable for stage situation. I find this stage piano should be relegated to the practice basement. Why would Yamaha make such a drastic change to an already wonderful piano recipe? I mean, the piano sounds are superior on the CP33, but again, that loud sample… Partial compromise, but still not satisfying, is to play the mellowest piano sound, that destined for classical playing, I think, and play it with ‘bright’ EQ. The attack is still there, but a little less bad that on the other piano patches. Sorry to complain, but it’s because Yamaha pianos are still my favorites. To me, they offer the best marriage between piano feel and natural dynamic response. The CP33 kills the ‘natural’ adjective in my last sentence. Any comments? Anybody know if Yamaha has planned a software upgrade for this?

  25. RobyRoby58 on April 14th, 2007 11:58 pm

    About CP33:

    I find that some samples in CP33 play very bad: especially F2, did anyone notice it?
    tk, bye
    Roby

  26. Allen Yu on May 2nd, 2007 9:13 pm

    I own a P-140. One gripe I have is that you can not get Midi out for recorded songs. That is, if you want Midi for your playing, you must record the Midi out signals while you play. You cannot store the song in the internal memory of the piano hoping to get midi out later. I called Yamaha support – and (I’m not sure how much to trust it) the support guy told me that in the P-120, you CAN get the Midi out from recorded user songs…

  27. hukkfinn on September 20th, 2007 8:15 pm

    I just listened to the P120 and P140 piano sounds that were VERY helpfully provided by Brian above. The P140 pianos clearly blow away the P120s. Somebody above said that the 140 has brighter and sharper sounds, I disagree (based on these Yamaha website samples). The P140 sounds more natural and more like a piano. Especially check out the No. 2 sample for grand piano in each case — no comparison!!

  28. hukkfinn on September 20th, 2007 8:20 pm

    The author of the initial article above tried to describe differences between the 120 and 140, but totally missed the fact that the key action was ENTIRELY REPLACED for the 140 series due to the fact that the 120′s keys were constantly breaking. A quick search on Google will reveal countless stories about 120 keys breaking and Yamaha’s fix of sending 120 owners brand new sets of keys — the key mechanism from the 140. Also I would not be surprised if the piano sampling technology for the 120 and the 140 are also entirely different, based on the higher quality 140 sounds that you can hear on the Yamaha website (provided by Brian above). Can anybody from Yamaha comment? Or can anybody ACCESS somebody from Yamaha to confirm?

  29. Andy on September 20th, 2007 8:41 pm

    Hi Hukkfinn,

    Thanks for clarifying this – very interesting. I could only go on what I was presented with, partly based on specifications and also based on my own subjective assessment of the sounds.

  30. Liz on November 15th, 2008 6:11 pm

    I see that you’re missing the in/out connections that have been changed from having the option of either adjustable volume 1/4″ Tip Sleeve outputs or fixed volume RCA jacks to only fixed volume RCA jacks. The headphones jacks have also been changed to 1/8″ as opposed to the p120′s 1/4″ jacks. There is no longer the option of toggling the speakers with the headphones or simply the speakers alone or having the speakers off altogether as there was with the p120. The PC jack and host selection switch has been omitted. It’s also the case that the connectors have been moved to the center of the outward face on the p140 as opposed to the left of the side face on the P120,(which actually might be an improvement). Apparently there are extra speakers added to the cabinet. I see two on the outward face as well as two on the top panel. The controls aren’t exactly the same on the top panel though they are very similar. The demo songs can no longer be tempo adjusted as they were able to be with the p120 also.

    Overall I think the p140 has been made into more of an amateur product than the p120, although not by much. It’s still a significant downgrade to me who happens to be a very frequent user of the p120 and many of it’s features.

    Liz

  31. Alex C on January 10th, 2009 5:26 am

    Just thought I’d give my tup-pence worth on the Yammy P120/140.

    I have owned both P120 and P140 and indeed I duly stick to the P120 for several reasons.

    !. The Rhodes sound which doesn’t exist on the P140 (that’s a mistake on Yamaha)
    2. The output section on the P120 is a professional array ulike the P140
    3. It’s better built than the P140
    4. Get your Keyboard replaced by Yamaha because of the notorious keys breaking and you have the better P140 keyboard.
    5. Better and more powerful inbuilt speakers.

    I think Yamaha really messed up on the P140 and it was purely a replacement for reducing production costs. No way is the P140 better than the P120 other than the keyboard quality IS better. But that CAN be fixed like mine was.

    The P140 only has a couple of photo outputs which are useless if you are a gigging musician. Also, I reckon the excellent Rhodes sound was pulled from the P140 because of licensing. Again, cheapening the successor.

    I replaced so many individual keys on my P120 that it became a joke because the keys that Yamaha supplied me didn’t even fit properly so they eventually replaced it with the P140 set. I am VERY happy with my P120 and there is NOTHING that is better on the market today for a decent quality instrument like this.

  32. Andy on January 14th, 2009 10:50 am

    Interesting insights, everyone. I’m pretty happy with the P140 but then I never played the P120, and it had already been superseded when I bought the P140 so would have had to scout around to buy it.

  33. jason ratky on March 4th, 2009 7:34 am

    “The demo songs can no longer be tempo adjusted as they were able to be with the p120 also. ”

    No, you still can adjust the tempo on the P-140 also. But now we have the P-155 on the way.

  34. Polar on March 11th, 2009 2:11 pm

    Just one thing…

    “Sound system / quality: both use AWM Dynamic Sound Sampling, which is Yamaha’s most up-to-date acoustic piano synthesis system to date. ”

    It’s actually ‘Dynamic STEREO Sampling” meaning that the sound is recorded with two microphones (panned Left and Right)

    Also, for your information, there are three different types of ‘Dynamic Stereo Sampling’ for Digital Pianos:

    3-level (Mezzo-forte, Forte and Fortissimo)
    4-level (Mezzo-piano Mezzo-forte, Forte and Fortissimo)
    5-level (Piano, Mezzo-piano Mezzo-forte, Forte and Fortissimo)

    In regard to the latest addition to the Yamaha P-Series, the P-155, production in Japan starts this month (March 2009)

    Regards,

    Polar

  35. Andy on March 11th, 2009 4:13 pm

    Hi Polar, thanks for clearing all that up.

  36. Polar on March 12th, 2009 6:34 am

    No problem. You seemed to well informed. Do you work for Yamaha by any chance?

  37. Polar on March 12th, 2009 6:36 am

    *to be well informed

    If anyone needs any further information on any Yamaha Pianos, Digital Pianos, or Portable keyboards I would be glad to help.

  38. Polar on March 12th, 2009 6:38 am

    * to be well informed

    If anyone needs any information on any Yamaha Pianos, Digital Pianos or Portable Keyboards I would be glad to help

    Polar

  39. Polar on March 12th, 2009 6:40 am

    sorry double post. my server is messed up.

  40. Andy on March 12th, 2009 10:00 am

    No probs Polar.

    No, I don’t work for Yamaha – that would be one of those dream jobs (though I’d probably do it part time alongside working for Apple!)

    I don’t even get any of their kit to try out, though I think I could only manage the smaller stuff anyway, like the Tenori-On. I’ve only just got room for the P140 in my house, letalone anything bigger :)

  41. Polar on March 15th, 2009 1:17 pm

    Oh ok cool. Hahah Tenori-Ons are amazing. I wouldn’t quite call working for Yamaha a dream job. Mine would be a Rock Star haha.

    If you ever need any product information you can email me on:

    jonny_ryan@gmx.yamaha.com

  42. Jon on March 21st, 2009 8:50 pm

    I have a P120 and have owned it for 5 years or so. It has been a great keyboard with good sounds. However, recently there has been one niggling thing that I would be interested in hearing if others have experienced the same. When plugging the p120 into PA systems (at rehearsal studios such as a Peavy Deca 424/400w system + 16-2 Studiomaster mixer) or Keyboard Amps (decent ones such as Roland KC-150), the Grand Piano 1 (or variation setting) is always disappointing. The Rhodes and Hammond sounds great, but the Grand Piano sounds woolly/electronicy. When practicing with headphones from a mixer or from the keyboard, it sounds just great. Is it more geared up as a home keyboard rather than a pro keyboard? I am experiencing this now that I am in band and wondering if the P120 is not quite as good as I originally thought… Any helpful comments appreciated. I am outputting using the standard two 1/4 jacks L/R+R. Thanks.

  43. Andy on March 23rd, 2009 9:52 am

    @polar: ahh that’s cool. wanna send me a tenori-on? ;)

    @jon: not quite sure. I think Yamaha intended the P series instruments to be semi-pro digital pianos. Seems odd that the piano sound wouldn’t be so good from the outputs. My P140 sounds fairly good through a Roland KC amp. Maybe it’s distorting slightly, or try other cables (I’m sure you’ve already thought of this).

    I suppose at the end of the day it’s still a digital reproduction of the sound, and it’s not the most advanced DP sound/technology Yamaha has developed, but even so, it should be good enough for most.

    If it sounds woolly, maybe try pushing the “dry” sound through (ie no effects) and add anything you want externally. I’ve found that the Hall settings can add a bit too much echo/reverb etc. when outputting the audio.

    Hopefully others might have more experience of this, and a workaround.

  44. Polar on March 25th, 2009 6:22 am

    @Andy: Haha, wish I could send you a tenori-on, but unfortunately we don’t distrubute them from YMGF (Yamaha Music Gulf Freezone). I could only get one if I send a special order to YCJ (Yamaha Corporation Japan).

    @Jon: If your P120 sounds great through headphones and the built-in speakers, but doesn’t sound good through PA’s or Keyboard Amplifiers then this is probably because you have the gain to high on the mixer. Also, the sound has improved alot since the P120. First the P140, and very soon the P155 will surpass the sound quality of the P120. My suggestion is: if you want to play on stage, then get a stage piano. See link.

    http://music.yamaha.com/products/main.html?productId=105242&hierarchy_id=16365_16277

  45. Steve Welsh on March 25th, 2009 8:55 pm

    Polar:

    I have questions on P140. How do i contact you?

    Thanks
    Steve
    stevewel35@gmail.com

  46. Jon on March 28th, 2009 9:18 pm

    Thanks Polar and Andy for your helpful comments. The combination of what you said and some other changes I have made has enabled me to get closer to the sound I was after. The best result was using Grand Piano 2 (no variation) which sounds much better amplified (with tweaks on the mixing desk too) than the two Grand Piano 1 settings. I wouldn’t use Grand Piano 2 when practising with headphones but it is ideal in a live setting because of its brightness (although I turned the keyboard’s brightness quite low). We had a rehearsal today and it was all sounding great now. Thanks again. Jon.

  47. Polar on March 29th, 2009 9:34 am

    Steve,

    I’ll email you now.

    Polar

  48. Perry on July 12th, 2009 2:40 am

    I know for a fact that the 120 has many more options of “outs” then the 140. The 140 dosn’t have quarter inch out capability at all. Just RCA outs. This is somewhat dissapointing for those of us that gig quite a bit. The only reason I purshased the 120 ( a few years ago) was because of all the options on the side… speakers off, PC1, PC2, line out options, etc… Anyway, we’re giving our 120 to our son for college and I’d like to upgrade. I’ve looked at the p155 that’s out now… Any chance you could update your column and include the “new” 155? by the way… this keyboard is certainly in my price range… if I had the bucks… the CP300 is so sweet… be a bit heavy to lug around. :) Also… what’s your take on the difference between the CP33 and the P155?

    Other then that… thanks man for the insightful update.

    Perry

  49. Andy on July 14th, 2009 6:12 pm

    Hi Perry,

    Here’s the article I wrote announcing the P155 replacing the P140 and here’s the complete specifications for the P155 which hopefully will make comparing them easier. I’ll try to update this post to compare all three in due course.

    The CP-300 is certainly a big beast compared to the P140 or P155. It has the same polyphony as the P155 (128 notes) plus a load more voices, better EQ and such like. Well suited for live performance but with a price tag matching the extra features. The CP33 is more in line with the P series, with 64 note polyphony. You’d probably want to test them out side by side to see which you prefer. I’d personally plump for greater polyphony if good reproduction of acoustic piano is important to you.

  50. Greg on January 10th, 2010 10:05 pm

    Andy,

    I’m looking into buying the p140. It’s discounted quite a bit at the local music store, I’m sure becuase of the p155. My question is how were you connecting the P140 to your amp? I would assume you would use the headphone jacks to retain volume control, but how do you convert the stereo to mono? I gig out quite a lot and it’s crucial that I have a robust connection to my amp.

    Thanks

    Greg

  51. Andy on January 11th, 2010 12:48 pm

    HI Greg,

    To be honest, I rarely connect my P140 to an amp because I use it “in situ” at home and the built in speakers are perfectly adequate for my needs.

    If I were connecting to an amp I would probably just use the back outputs. I know there’s no volume control but to be honest I’d control that from the amp, and if it were then going out to a PA desk I’d expect the sound engineer there to level volume as required.

    If I was going to take it from the headphone socket, I’d just use stereo 3.5mm jack to appropriate connection. For example, my current Roland amp I could either use a 3.5mm to RCA split, and the amp handles stereo to mono, or I could use 3.5mm to 6.3mm (either direct or with an adapter) in which case I think the amp still handles stereo to mono. I’d always want any output to a desk to maintain stereo.

    Hope that helps a little. It is annoying that the RCA outputs are fixed volume, but I don’t think it’s totally unworkable, but of course the way you need to use the P140 may vary.

    You might be able to find a P120 which is still a very good keyboard, if this is important, or alternatively one of Yamaha’s other models, but I understand how tempting it is given the discount.

    Andy

  52. Michael on January 30th, 2010 6:57 am

    The P120 has the GHE keyboard but the P140 has the GH keyboard that is used on the higher end CP series.

  53. Andy on January 30th, 2010 12:35 pm

    Good to know, Michael. Thanks for the comment.

  54. Michael on January 30th, 2010 4:26 pm

    You’re welcome Andy. I should add for accuracy that the keyboard of the P140 is sometimes also referred to as “Premium GHE”, which incidentally is the same as on the P155 that supersedes the P140.

  55. CW on July 2nd, 2010 2:25 pm

    I thought GHE = GH, which is better than GHS. Is this not true? I recently compared the feel of the YGP635 with GHS against the P155 and YDP223 with GH and GH felt much better to me, imho. I haven’t felt the P120 though. Is the GHE on the P120 the same as the P155?

    Also, will Yamaha still replace the keys of a P120? I’m looking into a used one and would like to know if I had a problem with the keys Yamaha would fix it.

    Thanks.

  56. CW on July 2nd, 2010 6:54 pm

    Hi, I since found that there is a GH3 which appear to be on the CVP line.

    btw, still would love your insight on if Yamaha would replace keys on a P120.

    Thanks.

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